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« on: January 28, 2010, 10:22:44 PM » |
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Most people which I tried to teach windsurfing gave it up after a few tries. We all went through that phase and I guess everyone remembers how hard it was, so it's somehow understandable. It's just too bad because they never really get to feel the adrenaline rush and the thrill once they start to plane etc, and for me a waste of time and battered equipment.
So how do you tell beginners not to give it up too early? Is there any magic word?
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P.J.
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« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2010, 10:31:51 PM » |
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I think no magic word, but you must give them the right board ( longboard ) and a light rig to uphaul. They should not have bad experience drifted downwind, uphaul till their muscle ache and keep falling on a small board. Once they experience the cruising of the board, will be stoked. My daughter went thru that, she is always asking for more
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Ian
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« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2010, 09:42:01 AM » |
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They should not have bad experience drifted downwind, uphaul till their muscle ache and keep failing on a small board.
Yep, i do that every time the wind drops |
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« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2010, 02:36:04 PM » |
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My past experience is guide within your best abilities. If the student is interested, he or she will naturally ask for more. Right equipment is definitely of paramount importance. However we just have to admit windsurfing is never a mass sport and people either love it or not... Spend more effort on students that are keen and focus your effort on them instead.
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« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2010, 04:05:51 PM » |
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the right equipment is vital along with friendly mentoring and preferably a bunch of good friends to go with
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Denis Wee
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« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2010, 08:58:10 PM » |
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Syamil,
You windsurf at Kuantan where a lot of people also kitesurf. Do you find that many people who are learning to kitesurf give up easily too? If not, then why not? Maybe you should charge the people you are teaching to windsurf so they will take it more seriously.
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Syamil
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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2010, 10:19:28 PM » |
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Hey guys thanks for the input.
I don't have a longboard, but the 85cm wide & 5m sail which I used is fairly easy for beginners imo. I can teach how to do this & and that, heck I even go pick them up from their houses & bus stations! But not sure how to tell them to stick with it.
Most of the time, I figured somehow if they're interested enough, they'll train more, go ask more questions and start saving some money to buy their own equipments. But, after a few sesh, they get frustrated and give it up just like that. WTF
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Meng
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« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2010, 02:21:09 PM » |
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plsss....tell me not to give up !!!!  |
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« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2010, 03:51:12 PM » |
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Ah yes, the eternal question.........
Anecdotal statistics suggest that if you teach 100 people 10 will come to the 3rd lesson, one to the 5th lesson, 0.5% will still be doing it after a year and 0.0001% will take up racing.
Be strong, persevere, go forth and multiply.
With 10 kids you can have your own team !!!
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Syamil
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« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2010, 03:25:34 PM » |
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Yeah, provided none of the lessons have hot chicks involved.
Otherwise you get an exponential increment.
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« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2010, 02:20:49 PM » |
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I remember I was the worst beginner of all (some things never change...) -- I would rent a board and sail for 2 hours and I'd be lucky to spend 5 minutes of that time standing up. This lasted for months, sometimes I needed a boat rescue several times a day. It was really frustrating.
But I remember clearly where the motivation came from: it was when the wind picked up a bit, seeing others planing past me, making it look so easy. I kept telling myself "if all these people can learn how to do it, so can I".
So if you really want to do it, you will do it eventually - but if you're not mad keen, then there's no way you'll ever get the hang of it. Plenty of people do a beginners' course, but few are interested enough to continue, and that's the bottom line. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.
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« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2010, 02:40:40 AM » |
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Hi,
Came across this post by accident and couldn't help but wanna say something...
I've been windsurfing at PAWV(EC) weekly for almost 5 years. Took me a year to learn how to use a club board, another to tack and jibe on it. Subsequently I bought a JP Freeride 129.. took me 1 year just to sail without falling all the time and another year just to tack. The last year I've been trying to jibe but its like out of 10 tries I get 1 right. And I cant even beach start yet... Damn. It can be really frustrating but whats keeping me going is imagining one day I can windsurf like the pros at the club and the constant reminder that I've invested so much time and effort in it already.
I get most of my information online and the library. My friends who started out windsurfing with me pretty much moved on to other things. So I'm pretty much by myself. I do ask for occasional tips from the ppl at the club but being not very sociable by personality, I don't do that very often. Think thats the major reason why I'm such a slow learner.
I really wanna learn but couldn't help but feel there must be a better way to progress. Constantly I am wondering whether am I doing things right.
Just a perspective about how hard it can get from someone who is still not there yet.
Regards
Hoon Song
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« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2010, 12:08:05 PM » |
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I think that when you're feeling bogged down, you should try to realize that windsurfing is classified as a tough activity to master. As if the balancing act under the bucking waves isn't enough, you also need to constantly fine-tune your sail position, optimize your body posture, keep the board from spinning out or pointing up, all the while anticipating errant gusts or sudden lulls that can drop you in the water in a second. That's a lot of hand-eye-coordination going on. And this is just sailing in a straight line.  Add in water starts, beach starts, jibing, tacking, plastic bags and coconuts with your name on it, and you can see that there's not a lot of margin for error. Windsurfers pretty much never stop honing their skills. Also, keep in mind that you're surfing at sea. Loads of people surf on lakes and other inland bodies of water, where there's hardly any current and a lot less chop to contend with. IOW, you'll probably blow them away when you surf on their spot.  |
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weng
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« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2010, 03:52:36 PM » |
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I think that when you're feeling bogged down, you should try to realize that windsurfing is classified as a tough activity to master. As if the balancing act under the bucking waves isn't enough, you also need to constantly fine-tune your sail position, optimize your body posture, keep the board from spinning out or pointing up, all the while anticipating errant gusts or sudden lulls that can drop you in the water in a second. That's a lot of hand-eye-coordination going on. And this is just sailing in a straight line. Add in water starts, beach starts, jibing, tacking, plastic bags and coconuts with your name on it, and you can see that there's not a lot of margin for error. Windsurfers pretty much never stop honing their skills. Also, keep in mind that you're surfing at sea. Loads of people surf on lakes and other inland bodies of water, where there's hardly any current and a lot less chop to contend with. IOW, you'll probably blow them away when you surf on their spot. I think Coconuts are unique to u wahahah! |
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« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2010, 06:36:03 PM » |
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Hi,
Came across this post by accident and couldn't help but wanna say something...
I've been windsurfing at PAWV(EC) weekly for almost 5 years. Took me a year to learn how to use a club board, another to tack and jibe on it. Subsequently I bought a JP Freeride 129.. took me 1 year just to sail without falling all the time and another year just to tack. The last year I've been trying to jibe but its like out of 10 tries I get 1 right. And I cant even beach start yet... Damn. It can be really frustrating but whats keeping me going is imagining one day I can windsurf like the pros at the club and the constant reminder that I've invested so much time and effort in it already.
I get most of my information online and the library. My friends who started out windsurfing with me pretty much moved on to other things. So I'm pretty much by myself. I do ask for occasional tips from the ppl at the club but being not very sociable by personality, I don't do that very often. Think thats the major reason why I'm such a slow learner.
I really wanna learn but couldn't help but feel there must be a better way to progress. Constantly I am wondering whether am I doing things right.
Just a perspective about how hard it can get from someone who is still not there yet.
Regards
Hoon Song
Hi Hoon Soon, Actually, the windsurfers at PA are very helpful (though some may look aloof : P). But just pick up the courage to speak to us and most of us will be more than willing to share our knowledge with you. For your info, i also learn by speaking to the old timers at PA and learning from internet forum. You just need to persevere,but in the right direction, to learn fast. Do speak to the moderator (Roger Jackson) at starboard learner forum as well. He is my online mentor when i first learn windsurfing and he gave great tips through his online reply : ) |
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