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Author Topic: Wanted: Big fin, Powerbox  (Read 2045 times)
PlaneSailin
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« on: April 17, 2009, 10:41:13 AM »

Anything around 50 cm, please.  For Power box system.

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« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2009, 12:15:14 PM »

You are just confirming your Despo status
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« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2009, 12:22:06 PM »

Shut up shut up shut up
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« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2009, 05:52:10 PM »

Anything around 50 cm, please.  For Power box system.

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50cm? get a formula  Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2009, 07:25:39 PM »

Now you are talking crazy. 

I just want a little more help to get planing...no need to go "overboard"

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« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2009, 10:21:55 PM »

DESPO!!!!!!!
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« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2009, 11:09:12 PM »

DESPO!!!!!!!

...says the guy who bought a NP Helium, designed to be the lightest, earliest-planing sail on the market, as soon as it came out - and in the biggest size, too!  Grin
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« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2009, 08:04:44 AM »

Anything around 50 cm, please.  For Power box system.

The Power Box is not designed for a fin that size.

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« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2009, 08:38:30 AM »

Anything around 50 cm, please.  For Power box system.

The Power Box is not designed for a fin that size.


may damage the box, why don't u get a formula or a free formula....?

btw, 50cm fin doesn't really helps unless your sail is 9.5mē>, trust me....
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« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2009, 09:34:09 AM »

Anything around 50 cm, please.  For Power box system.

The Power Box is not designed for a fin that size.


may damage the box, why don't u get a formula or a free formula....?


They do make them, but it's about the maximum size, I think.  It will only damage the box if I hit the bottom!

OK, let me explain myself, so you guys can stop nagging me to go Formula...


I HAD a free formula for 6 months or so, with a 9.8 V8 and a proper formula boom, and I had lots and lots and lots of fun with it.  I think I got more planing time than 99% of people for those 6 months.  I used to come back to the beach with my mind totally blown, mumbling "OMG that was amazing", after 2 hours of white-knuckle fully-powered sailing -- and the usual bunch of guys on the beach would be like "What? We didn't even rig up, there wasn't enough wind"

...so yes, there are good things about formula!

But here's the downside:  After all those countless planing hours, I found that when I got onto a smaller board in better wind, I had no balance anymore.  My gybes were worse than ever.   I had no sensitivity in my feet when it came to feeling where to put my weight.  Tacking? Forget it.  All those heli-tacks and upwind 360s I'd practiced so many times on the formula board?  Not happening. Back to square one.   On formula, all I learned was to use strength; finesse went out the window.  And I want to continue to improve, before my next long overseas windsurf trip.  It wasn't happening on formula.  Besides, planing on a smaller board is so much more fun!  After the NE, I tried my free formula again and it felt like I wasn't even planing.

So, one solution is to have 2 boards, right?  Use the smaller one in better wind. But it seldom works out as well as it should, because you always take the formula out first, and you get planing, and when the wind picks up for a while, it's often impractical to head back and change gear when you're actually not TOO overpowered...and anyway, if you change, you're still going to be uncomfortable, because you're not used to the smaller gear. 

I think the best solution (for me, not for everyone) is to use smaller gear (in my case an 8.5 and a big freeride board) all the time, get used to it, stay out until the wind picks up.  I can sail 4-5 days a week, and I live at East Coast, so I can usually get some wind if there's any going.
 
I'm just a bit sick of being the last guy planing, when I used to be one of the first!  Someone suggested that my 44cm fin could be too small, and a 50 might be the go.  Worth a try.   
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« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2009, 12:35:13 AM »

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After the NE, I tried my free formula again and it felt like I wasn't even planing.

Hey, what do you mean by this? I'm really curious. Does planing on a formula is less thrilled than on a big slalom gear? I always thought it is the other way around  - i.e because more bumpy & harder to control.

But anyway, the only thing I want from Formula is the tight like a virgin upwind angle. 6 or 25 knots doesn't matter.
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« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2009, 10:27:56 AM »

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After the NE, I tried my free formula again and it felt like I wasn't even planing.

Hey, what do you mean by this? I'm really curious. Does planing on a formula is less thrilled than on a big slalom gear? I always thought it is the other way around  - i.e because more bumpy & harder to control.

But anyway, the only thing I want from Formula is the tight like a virgin upwind angle. 6 or 25 knots doesn't matter.

I presume you are more experienced at other things than you are at windsurfing...?

Planing on a huge, wide board can feel like sliding over the water on a magic carpet, or it can be like riding a bucking bronco, depending on the conditions.

But riding a smaller board is much more exciting; you will have to find out for yourself. 

When I got back onto my formula board after a few months on smaller boards (not even super small; 110 and 130 litre freerides), it was like "What the HELL?  This is $H!T!" -and I never used it again. I put it up for sale right away, and now it's gone to a good home. 
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« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2009, 03:05:23 PM »

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Anything around 50 cm, please.  For Power box system.

I had a freeride Fanatic 124L with a 42 fin and a 8.5m North sail. I read somewhere in this forum that the fin size should be around 46cm. So I tried to search for one with powerbox but this monster never seems to exist. Later Joseph gave me a 54cm fin (Debochet?) someone got it from the earlier sales when Rachel first took over the shop. There were all kinds of fins going for about $30. We sized it down to ~50cm and put it on my freeride, though knowing that 50cm is way too big for my board tail-width. I never find the oversized fin any good in helping me early planing, maybe I lost it too soon in the shallow water among the rocks on a low tide day, it knocked off the fin from my board and never to be found again.
You can try to wade thru the rocks in low tide, if found then use it on your board.
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« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2009, 03:30:18 PM »

Which rocks?  Draw me a map
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« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2009, 03:41:20 PM »

Its next to the water breaker in front of the club, there are many rocks on the other side of the breaker, the bay where usually people launches their sail during NE to catch the wind.
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