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Author Topic: Wanted: Used Wave / Freestyle board  (Read 2063 times)
Nick Teo
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« on: July 28, 2003, 04:26:00 PM »

Hi,

Looking for a used wave/freestyle board of 85 to 95 litres, preferably not older than 2001 model, any brand.
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« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2003, 11:00:00 AM »

Hi Nick,

My fren is selling his rigs. Drops freestyle and a JP free wave. Also he has sail, carbon wave mast
and boom for sale. All in good condition. I might consider taking his sail, mast & boom, but I haven't made up my mind, so u can go ahead and grab that first if u want. Any way, if you are interested let me know and I'll put you in contact with him.

Cheers,
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« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2003, 03:23:00 PM »

Hi Justin,

The JP board sounds interesting. Can you ask your friend to email me the details like vol, length, width, year & price etc? If the sail is between 5.8 to 6.3m and the condition is good, I'm interested too. Thanks!
My email: nick@nickteo.com

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« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2003, 04:37:00 PM »

Hi Nick,

Just forwarded your email to him. The sail is a 5.9 sail. He will contact you soon.

Cheers,
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« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2003, 04:42:00 PM »

By the way Nick. Do you wave sail? I am interested in learning & looking for kakis. Am thinking of getting a Starboard Evo from Shukdev. And I need advice on what size board & rig to get. Any way, if you do wave sail around this region do let me know and maybe I can join you on your trips when the NE kicks in again.
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« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2003, 06:50:00 PM »

hi ... this is Justin's boss.  stop dreaming about waves & get BACK TO WORK *whip,whip*!!!

but seriously brah, who do u know that's selling the JP & Drops?
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« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2003, 07:34:00 PM »

Guys, nick is no other than half of our very well known duo Nick and shirley (..check our gallery, Nick is the one jumping a 155 and Shirley is the one who embarrses guys twice her weight with the sail sizes she uses). He's stuck in icy france for a while (eh Nick est le vent trop fort?).

Jus, EVO is in, and Jus's boss (fake! fake!) the FSX is in..so are several other new models
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« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2003, 08:52:00 PM »

hi jus,

thanx for forwarding my email.

i still have not done 'waves sailing' lah! so i cannot give u any advice. the last time i went windsurfing in france and tarifa i was using hypersonic105. it was survival mode man! getting air-borned so high when i did not even try to jump. My 5m sail is way too big for those days.    

sukhdev, i didn't know that u know french too. oui, il y a quelque jours le vent était très très fort (pour moi)! Mais, aujourd'hui, il fait très chaud, 40 deg!
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« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2003, 10:43:00 PM »

Nick,

Mai hao lian hoh....

안녕....nick

또 봅시다. 싱가폴에서
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« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2003, 04:48:00 PM »

Hi Boss aka Huang,
Its Pete thats sellin his gear. I seen it before. Real good condition. U have his email rite? If not I'll send to u.

Hi Shukdev,
Thanks for informing us about da Evo. Am drooling. Just can't decide what size to get. want something i can regularly use to learn wave sailing in bintan & desaru in the north east monsoon. I weigh 62kg, and my jibes still suck big time. whadda u reckon? 80l or 92l? what are the biggest sail size the 80l & 92l can take for some one my size. what sail size & board would i be expecting to use on the waves for most times in bintan?

Hi Meng,
How r u? still remember me? i am that fat lil kid skateboarding around the hawker center that used to annoy u all. those times when Tommy, Andrew, Nelson & U used to disturb da bikini clad ah quah at the beach. heh heh.
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« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2003, 08:53:00 PM »

Jus,

warning..essay ahead ..

past few years i've used 3 boards. The Fish 96 was the most used, floaty, easy to get out through mush and took up to a  6.9 sailworks bongo (!). Prior to the fish i used a 62cm wide rogue wave freestyle as my light air "wave" board. The EVO 92 will replace the fish96 which is now in Kelly Fecho's good hands.

2nd most used board is the middle board in the picture below. Its a rogue wave custom about 56cm wide, thin tail, overall volume about 80liters. Perfect for 5.8 conditions, fin 22cm or 24. Can take down to a 4.8 or so sail. Fast rocker, very tucked rails from front to back.

one other board i've used alot is a old rogue wave custom which is 52.5cm wide (left board in the picture). This has a big sail range even though its quite narrow, volume is even front to back and i've used from 4.2 to 6.0 on this board. Its not as slashy as the previous board. Fast rocker, moderate tuck on rails.

I had one more board which I used but it didnt work too well, this was a pure sideshore wave board, excellent in maui, very slashy but too slow for bintan conditions.

[out of curiosity the right most board is a very thin 49cm wide high wind slalom]

My learnings from all these boards are:

- you need float in our conditions. Bintan is onshore so a board with good upwind, good float and decent speed is important. Desaru is breakers and can be a challenge when its big. Jason's bay is fairly easy and so is Kuantan.
- board should have speed and good upwind and be able to carry speed through the turn. our mushy junky waves collapse fast and are close together, a slow board stalls as the waves dont have enough push. The fish worked great as the wide tail kept it going through even fairly slow turns. A true wave board would just stall in such turns.
- Once the wind is up the smaller the better. However, a good 60cm hull will remain controllable in pretty high winds (our high winds that is).

I'd suggest you start with quite a "big" board. This will give security in gybes, plane easily and carry a reasonable sail range. It takes skill to sail small hulls and it can be a frustrating experience if the hull is too responsive. Also, the smaller boards will rarely see any use outside of the monsoon (thats why they are in my living room). I've had one rare afternoon 2 years ago when I sailed the middle board at east coast and the smallest one (on the right) only ever got truly used in one huge storm about 3+ years ago. There is nothing quite like the feel of a small lightweight hull under the feet, but..reality is we rarely get such conditions and at your size something in the 9xlitre 6xcm width will see year round use. This means a hull that you get to know well long before the monsoon kicks in (reality: how many monsoon weekends are there?). You can always go way smaller later, i would contend that you will know when you can/want to handle a much smaller board.

as you can see this is a topic close to my heart..something about boards in this category that just brings out the soul of windsurfing (now..dont get me started on sails...    

gotta excuse me for this picture..the boards are just too pretty not to share..and if anybody wants a rogue wave, we would be happy to help, lee brittain makes incredible wave boards...

   
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« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2003, 11:09:00 AM »

Hiya Shukdev,

Thanks for the wonderful advice. It was extremely informative. Nice pics of your custom boards too. Drool droool. From what you say it looks like the 92 litre Evo would be the way to go for me in the NE conditions. Can't wait to try it out your demo board.

As for the rig to go with the Evo, I was wondering if I could use my ancient 460 slalom mast (cannot remember the other specs)& alu boom with my present set of sails. a very old 6.5 naish nalu & 6.0 sailworks revo. or would u advise that i shld go for pure wave stuff. Hmmmm......maybe we should get you going on sails too. heh heh.

Cheers,
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« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2003, 04:20:00 PM »

Jus, stick with what you have for now, it wont seriously limit you. Once you start going out in mush then yes, a skinny mast + wave sail and boom will save $ in the long term.
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« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2003, 08:32:00 PM »

Jus, evo unwrapped, sitting pretty on my living room carpet. lets hope there is a big enough storm over the weekend to try it out.
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« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2003, 12:13:00 AM »

Hello Jus,

How r u doing ?
Sorry for the late reply.

How come u r not on the Formula ??
I have long gave up skateboarding or ogling at Bikinis.
Also, sick of waiting for the wind to move a >110L board.

Drop by Seasports one day.
C u soon...
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