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Author Topic: Slalom or formula?  (Read 1287 times)
sukhdev
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« on: January 12, 2003, 10:29:00 AM »

My observations after the race in Kuantan...

- in less than 18 knots or so the big boards do very well due to being able to start better, get on the plane quicker after the gybe. Race one was a good example, wind was hovering around that level so the big boards & big sails could climb upwind a bit and then bear off, and get planing quicker after the gybe.

- in 20knots and over, slalom boards do very well if they get a clean start and clear air. If however they get buried in a pack at the gybe, the big boards get going earlier and things even out again.

- speed difference between the 2 on the reach in 18 to 20 is not huge going out, as in Kuantan the swell requires you to maintain a controlled speed, if you are forced to jump its race over. Coming in the hyper was a standout, it has very high speed coming down swells.

- Sail size choice was more important, the races where places were swopped most were when sailors either went too big or too small.

Robbie Radis did most of his racing on a 66cm "hypersonic like" board. Kookiat swopped between the 147 and the hyper depending on which sail he was on. Its becoming clear that one good slalom hull that is wide enough to take sails in the 6.5 to 9.0 range would be the best choice if only one board could be used.

In the end it was all down to sailor skill and fitness, Robbie and Kookiat are mind boggling fit (so are Bo and Andrew) as they showed during the long "round the island" course race. The thai boys aerobic fitness really showed during the jungle run where Andrew was pretty much the only person to keep up with them in that crazy running race (yes, it was really running through the jungle).
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« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2003, 05:47:00 PM »

Try this on a very strong NE windy and flat water day. Using a 9.0m downhaul max ++.on a FORMULA. Masttrack as forward as the board could take.

Sail near the airport and wait for the plane to land. you will be sailing on the tail for a distance when the gust hit.

AWESOME !!!
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« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2003, 04:36:00 PM »

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Originally posted by H2O:
Try this on a very strong NE windy and flat water day. Using a 9.0m downhaul max ++.on a FORMULA. Masttrack as forward as the board could take.

Sail near the airport and wait for the plane to land. you will be sailing on the tail for a distance when the gust hit.

AWESOME !!!

NE is meant for enjoyment & not meant for suffering
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« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2003, 07:47:00 PM »

Dear H2o,There's no flat water at the runway area that you mentioned.In a strong NE blow,chops around the area is about a meter high,est;20to25knts.6to7sqmsail to some is already a big headache,or AWESOME.Flat water at the runway area is when the wind is blowing 10to15knts.16knts +,the area gets a bit of chops and most FORMULA boards begins to disappear to nearer the "longkang"area next to PA where the water is FLAT and friendly.So formula board and 9sqm sail do not have a chance to EXPRIENCE AWESOME unless it is drifted there!!Dont BS!!! There is eyes in the water.  
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« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2003, 08:27:00 PM »

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Dear H2o,There's no flat water at the runway area that you mentioned.In a strong NE blow,chops around the area is about a meter high,est;20to25knts.6to7sqmsail to some is already a big headache,or AWESOME.Flat water at the runway area is when the wind is blowing 10to15knts.16knts +,the area gets a bit of chops and most FORMULA boards begins to disappear to nearer the "longkang"area next to PA where the water is FLAT and friendly.So formula board and 9sqm sail do not have a chance to EXPRIENCE AWESOME unless it is drifted there!!Dont BS!!! There is eyes in the water.  

Was sailing @ Padang Buoy on Sat ard 4-5pm, did not see any formula boards @ all.
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« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2003, 11:52:00 AM »

Just got back from Tanjong Balau, this is 5 km north of Desarru

It was awesome man, forget about those formula boards if you are thinking about going there. Even wave boards were having problems just getting out.
Winds were about 30 knots, wave breaks 2m, swells 3-4 m.
Perfect for wave sailing and jump, if you want air time this is the place.

Took some pictures, planning another trip soon those interested let me know.

   

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« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2003, 11:54:00 AM »

force5,

If you can email me the pics I'll be glad to put them up.
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« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2003, 12:14:00 AM »

"Force5", If you register or provide an email, it will be easier to get in contact...
 
 [ 20. January 2003, 12:58 PM: Message edited by: ulfp ]
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« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2003, 12:18:00 AM »

Hi this is forcez 5 aka f2
I just sent pic to sukhdev of our trip to Tanjong Balau. Anyone intrested in going for the trip pls let me know.
please note that this is place is for experienced sailors only, wave boards and wave sails preferably definitely a no, no for formulas.
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« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2003, 07:59:00 AM »

Aiming for Bintan this weekend, but you can "count me in" on any subsequent weekend...

Is Tanjong Balau the beach next to the "half finished" resort (I think it is called La Cemara), or is it further north or south?
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« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2003, 02:31:00 PM »

Vincent's Tanjong Balau pictures are now up at :

 http://bluefinz.com/html/Local%20Scene/monsoon03/index.htm

looks remarkbly like Balok Kuantan, esp in front of La Village, should be interesting to explore.
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« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2003, 12:13:00 AM »

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Originally posted by ulfp:
Aiming for Bintan this weekend, but you can "count me in" on any subsequent weekend...

Is Tanjong Balau the beach next to the "half finished" resort (I think it is called La Cemara), or is it further north or south?

Hi  ulfp
tnajong balau is next to La Camara and the place we sailed is north of it about 5 km up
as soon as the winds pick up will let you know
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« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2003, 05:45:00 PM »

Anyone planning a visit to Tanjong Balau or Jasons Bay in the next few days?
Weather chart forecasts is 15knt ENE for Saturday, so if the rain dont jam the wind, it looks promising.
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